How to foster stupidity
By Dean
(2008-08-26 13:56:42)
I do not believe in undue respect. I don't expect you to respect me just because I exist; I don't expect you to respect me because I write about really cool stuff which is totally interesting and awesome. I don't want that kind of false respect from anyone. It's insulting.
If I won a LAN party tournament with a pink-unicorn case mod, then you can respect me. Or if I came up with some insightful ideas that you were able to apply to save you or your company fifty billion dollars (like that would ever happen), then you can respect me. But that doesn't mean you should. I'm not going to lie awake at night wondering about how many people respect me.
If I come up with some terrible idea that you know for some reason is terrible, then I'd want you, like my hero House, to disrepect me by telling me that my idea is terrible, and to explain why it's terrible so that I can learn from my mistake. Pretending that my idea is just misinformed or "good but not best" or something like that is a waste of time. I did something you know is stupid, so I don't deserve your respect.
If you told me that my bad idea was good but could be better, then I have every reason to believe that my idea was good, because you said it was. When a similar situation arises, I might use my bad idea again.
If you don't explicitly tell someone his idea is bad, he might think that it's good, and then either apply the bad idea or spread the bad idea around unchecked. Then everyone has the same bad idea and you end up with something like XML (oh snap!).
Some places of discussion subscribe to the idea of unmoderated open discussion and others stray more toward forcing everyone to be nice and friendly with one an other. Obviously I have a problem with the latter type. Forums, channels and whatnot that prevent you from telling me that my bad ideas are, in fact, bad tend to foster users who consistently come up with bad ideas and can't be steered in the right direction for fear of breaking the rules and being kicked out.
There is a difference in simply not respecting an idea and simply being mean. I don't condone running rampant doing nothing other than calling people names. I'm suggesting more of a systematic and logical disproval of bad ideas, which leave absolutely no room for an interpretation that the idea has any merit. At worst, you will offend people who have vested too much emotion into their ideas — which I would argue is their own fault for overpersonalizing their ideas. At best, you'll spur a debate which may or may not end in your side winning.
Heavily moderated discussions tend to only show the side the moderator finds least offensive. Breaking down an argument and disproving it is seen as offensive by some people. The result is bad ideas proliferate. But I guess no one is offended so it's OK, right? Fie I say! Environments like that don't deserve to be frequented. Let them dry up so the stifling moderators can rule over all of the stupidity they have sewn, wallowing in a sea of false respect and nice meaningless words.
I would always prefer harsh honesty to undue respect. The consequences of the alternative are just awful.
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Honestly...
By Niblets
(2008-08-27 16:16:39)
These are the rantings of a syphilic-infested madman. MAD I SAY.....
You are so bitter
By Nemuri
(2008-09-17 03:29:32)
There are ways to be civil AND give constructive criticism. Constructive criticism isn't really constructive if you're too nice to hurt someone's feelings. It's simple to avoid this by using the smallest amount of tact, and doesn't take much effort at all. Sorry that i'm late to the party, I only read your blag when I remember that it is there. I shall bookmark it now.
Fie!
By Dean
(2008-09-17 07:57:03)
In my experience some people don't get it unless you're specifically abrasive. Surely if you can deal with someone gracefully that is good, but being abrasive about it should always be an option, man.
Bitter is Good
By Tali
(2009-04-14 16:47:11)
People are not their ideas, just as you say. Tearing apart someone's ideas shouldn't hurt their feelings, and even if a person is an absolute douchebag, some of their ideas might still be worth consideration. I don't know about this being due to investing too much emotion in one's ideas...maybe those who get upset just don't get this concept?